I do think it should have been bleeped or cut off, not because of Michael B Jordan and what’s his name but because of Davidson. The editorial team cannot in all honesty say they didn’t know Davidson was going to get a lot of backlash from what happened. The true victim here is Davidson. It looks like a classic case of publicity and sensationalism at the expense of someone who couldn’t help himself.
Michael B Jordan and friend don’t need the therapy as much Davidson does for all he’s going through at the moment after all, he’s getting bullied on a ridiculously large scale.
Your opinion on this issue highlights what I see as a significant blind spot in your understanding of race, racism, white supremacy, intersectionality, and power. I do not know you personally, but you strike me as someone thoughtful and reasonable, which is why I am not dismissing your perspective outright.
I would genuinely encourage you to read more deeply on these subjects, especially as an African person whose historical relationship to slavery is different from that of those whose ancestors were enslaved in the transatlantic system. The depth of that experience, the generational consequences, and the ways institutions continue to reproduce inequality long after slavery was formally abolished are complex and far-reaching.
The depths of that experience and generational consequences don’t stop people from calling themselves the n word so it shouldn’t stop others as well. If you call your mom a bitch in public, you cannot cry if others call her that same term of endearment. Or is there something about that word in particular that causes actual psychological damage? As far as I can see, there’s not and this insistence that there is is what I describe as black fragility.
I would suggest engaging with this from a systems perspective. Start by examining how these systems evolved historically, how they function in the present, and how they continue to shape lived realities. It may also help to look at how they operate across core institutions such as: religion, government, economics and the family because these structures do not exist or operate in isolation.
I hope you will challenge yourself to think again.
All you have written will make sense if this wasn't a word that is used by the people in question as a term of endearment for them selves and people of other races including black people.
The average black man uses that term in every other sentence... To everyone. There is not a single racial slur like that.
History is transgenerational. Many historical grievances still play before our eyes today. Descendants generations afar off feel the pain of their ancestors when they are made to relive an harrowing experience. It’s etched in their archetype. The weight the N word carries is very different to you as it is for them. If a German nationale today calls Jews Holocaust slurs on the PITCH, the Jews would be riled up in Europe and America. So people hold historical grievances. It’s not peculiar to Black Americans. The pain an Igbo man feels when he reads the “narratives” about the Biafra war is not what an Ethiopian man or even a Yoruba man would feel. It’s merely human nature. You can only excuse the “Tourette” if that was not a set up. Because why warn that a Tourette patient is around ahead of the show if it’s not intended to cause mischief later on, on which basis it will be excused. Conspiracy theory? Perhaps
Today I've been wondering about the discourse of men writing and having opinion on women's bodies and why it's an issue. It's quite similar to non afro-americans commenting on the discourse of afro-americans.
I've not gotten my conclusion yet, but I think you should research about the magic word and it's effect, maybe then you might understand the outrage from their pov and maybe you could write from a clear pov. You sound like someone who wouldn't understand why people would reserve particular version of their names for close friends only, and get mad when stranger call them those names.
Why do you think it’s an issue, and why do you think I would agree that it’s one… and I did enough research of the magic word and its “effects”. Except you can point me to some innate psychological properties of the magic word that stops black people from ignoring it like every other insult, then there’s not much to reply.
you genuinely do not get the context here as you rightly said cause you haven’t experienced racism. It’s very easy for black africans like myself even before i moved abroad to have this type of mindset towards racism until you directly experience it then you understand the outrage.
I’ve been insulted many times before and I never manage to develop a complex surrounding it. It’s a daily reality for poor Nigerians such as myself. I’m sorry if I cannot relate to the psychological suffering of wealthiest blacks on the planet.
Their currency is higher and that makes them richer. Not policies put in their favour or any other thing. Also, the fact that we see a few black people doing well doesn’t mean the community as a whole has the same experience.
You just had to go and ruin it with your own pseudo intellectualism posing as logical obviosities. Maybe that's the next thing you should write about. I do agree that the whole thing was overblown though, even with this article.
Apples and oranges. How can you compare the unintentional blurting of a word due to a debilitating disease, to a deliberate action that denies holocaust? His article was pretty direct and honest. This is just dishonest mental gymnastics. Abeg abeg
Would you, in all objectiveness, say that Davidson isn't a victim here and was racist? Because that would be the only justification for the outburst. If you truly believe Tourette syndrome is as bad as medical claims are, then there is no need for the outcry the big black babies are doing, honestly.
Honestly, saw the comment and it’s not worth a reply. The article was almost five thousand words, and this is what he got from it. It really can’t be helped.
It was lewd enough that the referee gave him a yellow card for it. The referee is likely more educated on the appropriateness of the celebration than you. That is what my judgement is based on.
It’s not an appeal to authority, it’s simply saying the celebration was viewed as inappropriate for TV that a referee (who’s seen thousands of celebrations at this point) deemed it fit to give him a yellow card. You have to substantiate that this was due to “error” or “bias”. You can’t just make the claim that because it was not a celebration invented by Vini, then it cannot be offensive. I don’t know what to do with the rest of your comment since a majority of the reasoning of the article was hinged on the Tourette’s case, not Vinicius. Sorry the article made you feel bad, I guess.
Hello guy, this is the user you just blocked @Victorium
“The appeal to authority fallacy (argumentum ad auctoritatem) occurs when a claim is assumed to be true solely because an authority figure endorses it, rather than on the basis of evidence. It becomes a fallacy when the expert lacks relevant expertise, is biased, or when experts in the field disagree, making the appeal an invalid substitute for logical, evidence-based reasoning.”
Bro, are you joking? You’re saying the referee knows best, and that your claim is true simply because the referee, in this case, is the sole arbiter of what is right or wrong on a football field. That is an appeal to authority. The fact that footballing bodies often sanction or suspend referees for dubious decisions shows they are human and not always correct.
Also, I did not say that because Vinicius didn’t invent the celebration, that makes it right. I’m saying the celebration wasn’t new, and it has been done numerous times without punishment or controversy before Vinicius did it. That seems suspicious, doesn’t it?
Furthermore, I’ve been one of your long-standing and dedicated readers. I’ve mostly agreed with your views and posts, and I’ve commented, liked, and shared them. But this one time I disagreed with you, you decided to block me. That tells me everything I need to know about your attitude and character. It seems like you want yes-men as readers, not people who will sometimes challenge your claims and assertions.
Your condescending and demeaning attitude toward people who engage with you — especially those who disagree with you — is disappointing. You are not Mr. Know-It-All. In fact, no one is. It would do you some good to humble yourself and improve this undignified behaviour of yours.
It's utterly absurd how a single word can throw an entire community of people into a delirious state of frenzy
This is a very wicked piece. And I say wicked to mean deeply thought provoking.
On one hand, I’m forced to think about how exaggerated the effect of the n-word is on blacks when spoken by a non-white, given the context.
On the other hand, I’ve never experienced racism to the point of knowing how it moves the needle of on my decisions and ultimately life.
It’s hard to land a conclusion but it was a good read.
Thanks
"If a word is only a slur when a person of a certain colour uses it, with the intent being irrelevant, then you're the racist."
I do think it should have been bleeped or cut off, not because of Michael B Jordan and what’s his name but because of Davidson. The editorial team cannot in all honesty say they didn’t know Davidson was going to get a lot of backlash from what happened. The true victim here is Davidson. It looks like a classic case of publicity and sensationalism at the expense of someone who couldn’t help himself.
Michael B Jordan and friend don’t need the therapy as much Davidson does for all he’s going through at the moment after all, he’s getting bullied on a ridiculously large scale.
You’re correct
Eliwa,
Your opinion on this issue highlights what I see as a significant blind spot in your understanding of race, racism, white supremacy, intersectionality, and power. I do not know you personally, but you strike me as someone thoughtful and reasonable, which is why I am not dismissing your perspective outright.
I would genuinely encourage you to read more deeply on these subjects, especially as an African person whose historical relationship to slavery is different from that of those whose ancestors were enslaved in the transatlantic system. The depth of that experience, the generational consequences, and the ways institutions continue to reproduce inequality long after slavery was formally abolished are complex and far-reaching.
The depths of that experience and generational consequences don’t stop people from calling themselves the n word so it shouldn’t stop others as well. If you call your mom a bitch in public, you cannot cry if others call her that same term of endearment. Or is there something about that word in particular that causes actual psychological damage? As far as I can see, there’s not and this insistence that there is is what I describe as black fragility.
I would suggest engaging with this from a systems perspective. Start by examining how these systems evolved historically, how they function in the present, and how they continue to shape lived realities. It may also help to look at how they operate across core institutions such as: religion, government, economics and the family because these structures do not exist or operate in isolation.
I hope you will challenge yourself to think again.
All you have written will make sense if this wasn't a word that is used by the people in question as a term of endearment for them selves and people of other races including black people.
The average black man uses that term in every other sentence... To everyone. There is not a single racial slur like that.
*including white people
History is transgenerational. Many historical grievances still play before our eyes today. Descendants generations afar off feel the pain of their ancestors when they are made to relive an harrowing experience. It’s etched in their archetype. The weight the N word carries is very different to you as it is for them. If a German nationale today calls Jews Holocaust slurs on the PITCH, the Jews would be riled up in Europe and America. So people hold historical grievances. It’s not peculiar to Black Americans. The pain an Igbo man feels when he reads the “narratives” about the Biafra war is not what an Ethiopian man or even a Yoruba man would feel. It’s merely human nature. You can only excuse the “Tourette” if that was not a set up. Because why warn that a Tourette patient is around ahead of the show if it’s not intended to cause mischief later on, on which basis it will be excused. Conspiracy theory? Perhaps
Today I've been wondering about the discourse of men writing and having opinion on women's bodies and why it's an issue. It's quite similar to non afro-americans commenting on the discourse of afro-americans.
I've not gotten my conclusion yet, but I think you should research about the magic word and it's effect, maybe then you might understand the outrage from their pov and maybe you could write from a clear pov. You sound like someone who wouldn't understand why people would reserve particular version of their names for close friends only, and get mad when stranger call them those names.
Personally I don't, but everyone's not me.
Why do you think it’s an issue, and why do you think I would agree that it’s one… and I did enough research of the magic word and its “effects”. Except you can point me to some innate psychological properties of the magic word that stops black people from ignoring it like every other insult, then there’s not much to reply.
you genuinely do not get the context here as you rightly said cause you haven’t experienced racism. It’s very easy for black africans like myself even before i moved abroad to have this type of mindset towards racism until you directly experience it then you understand the outrage.
I’ve been insulted many times before and I never manage to develop a complex surrounding it. It’s a daily reality for poor Nigerians such as myself. I’m sorry if I cannot relate to the psychological suffering of wealthiest blacks on the planet.
calling them the wealthiest blacks on the planet is literally part of the problem 🤣
And yet it’s the truth
Their currency is higher and that makes them richer. Not policies put in their favour or any other thing. Also, the fact that we see a few black people doing well doesn’t mean the community as a whole has the same experience.
Black Americans have a much higher quality of life than every other black group in the world as well .
Explain how that is part of the problem when it's actually the case
Banger boy!!!
You just had to go and ruin it with your own pseudo intellectualism posing as logical obviosities. Maybe that's the next thing you should write about. I do agree that the whole thing was overblown though, even with this article.
Apples and oranges. How can you compare the unintentional blurting of a word due to a debilitating disease, to a deliberate action that denies holocaust? His article was pretty direct and honest. This is just dishonest mental gymnastics. Abeg abeg
Would you, in all objectiveness, say that Davidson isn't a victim here and was racist? Because that would be the only justification for the outburst. If you truly believe Tourette syndrome is as bad as medical claims are, then there is no need for the outcry the big black babies are doing, honestly.
Honestly, saw the comment and it’s not worth a reply. The article was almost five thousand words, and this is what he got from it. It really can’t be helped.
How is that relevant to the magical qualities of racist insults?
It was lewd enough that the referee gave him a yellow card for it. The referee is likely more educated on the appropriateness of the celebration than you. That is what my judgement is based on.
It’s not an appeal to authority, it’s simply saying the celebration was viewed as inappropriate for TV that a referee (who’s seen thousands of celebrations at this point) deemed it fit to give him a yellow card. You have to substantiate that this was due to “error” or “bias”. You can’t just make the claim that because it was not a celebration invented by Vini, then it cannot be offensive. I don’t know what to do with the rest of your comment since a majority of the reasoning of the article was hinged on the Tourette’s case, not Vinicius. Sorry the article made you feel bad, I guess.
Hello guy, this is the user you just blocked @Victorium
“The appeal to authority fallacy (argumentum ad auctoritatem) occurs when a claim is assumed to be true solely because an authority figure endorses it, rather than on the basis of evidence. It becomes a fallacy when the expert lacks relevant expertise, is biased, or when experts in the field disagree, making the appeal an invalid substitute for logical, evidence-based reasoning.”
Bro, are you joking? You’re saying the referee knows best, and that your claim is true simply because the referee, in this case, is the sole arbiter of what is right or wrong on a football field. That is an appeal to authority. The fact that footballing bodies often sanction or suspend referees for dubious decisions shows they are human and not always correct.
Also, I did not say that because Vinicius didn’t invent the celebration, that makes it right. I’m saying the celebration wasn’t new, and it has been done numerous times without punishment or controversy before Vinicius did it. That seems suspicious, doesn’t it?
Furthermore, I’ve been one of your long-standing and dedicated readers. I’ve mostly agreed with your views and posts, and I’ve commented, liked, and shared them. But this one time I disagreed with you, you decided to block me. That tells me everything I need to know about your attitude and character. It seems like you want yes-men as readers, not people who will sometimes challenge your claims and assertions.
Your condescending and demeaning attitude toward people who engage with you — especially those who disagree with you — is disappointing. You are not Mr. Know-It-All. In fact, no one is. It would do you some good to humble yourself and improve this undignified behaviour of yours.
Thanks for reading, but I’m sorry insults are not part of what I tolerate from readers!